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We Think we Know, because of Words?

May 30, 2008

birds-of-higher-realms1.jpgLore74.

(11/01/2006 10:47 and 4 + 7 = 11, what this letter starts with. And 01 + 2 + 6 = 9 which give us for today an 11/9

This is Lore74

Dear Lor

The last few previous letters was all about words – or had to do with words in one way or the other (I know every letter is about words as what else are you reading than words – but there were spesific areas of words that came up).

On Sunday I spoke to my mom about the woman on the Afrikaans channel of Dstv who try to help people to interpret their dreams. But something about that is still bothering me. She is telling the people that “…hiermee se die Here dit vir jou”, “…en daarmee se die Here dat vir jou”. I am only taking examples now, but that is what it basically comes down to. But, as I said, she is only trying to help the people to understand what God want to tell them in their dreams. And I cannot exactly put my finger on what about it is troubling me – as her intentions is only for the highest good of the people she is trying to help. But it is the same with another woman who held some music show one day at the Spar. She praised God and then she will say: “En die Here het vanoggend vir my dit gese…”

And on Sunday, as I spoke to my mother about all this and tried to figure out what it is that is bothering me (sometimes when something is bothering me it does not necessarily mean it is “wrong” – most of the times it is only to focus my attention on it as there may be a lesson in). And I said to my mom I wonder if these people realize that they are making a claim that they know what God is trying to say – in that way, they know so much about God that they can tell people that God is trying to tell the person this or what ever. My mother’s comment was that it sounds like the “dominees”, as they also claim that God is saying this or that to people in this or that text in the Bible. And I wonder if it now all comes down to that they are all claiming they know God? And I remember as a child the “dominee” telling us that we can know God by God’s Word, the Bible. And I cannot understand what about that is troubling me so much – could it be that I do not believe them?
If we are to know God by God’s Word (the Bible), then God is most confusing as words are confusing. So the big question is actually, how can they KNOW God, if they disagree about how to interpret the words that are suppose to tell them about God? And I think the hilarious extreme is when they start voting (the preachers and leaders of the church) about which interpretation is correct and which not about problems that arise in the churches! This really says a lot about knowing God by God’s Word, the Bible.

And I don’t know why, but I am thinking of an incident now where there were drama in our house while I was still working in the bank. (And I always thought, while I was still at university, that one can only be a true philosopher through/by experience). And the one woman I worked with came over to our house and she suggested that I find God in the Bible – and my answer to that was that (and this is what it came down to) I will not find God there, but I believe in philosophy there might be more of a chance. At least philosophy acknowledges how confusing words can be. And I look at how the churches are battling to interpret what God’s Will is from the Word they were given and from which they are suppose to know God from. And isn’t this a battle – and I wonder if the churches even realize how confused they get? Maybe they are so busy with all the confusement, that they do not realize the confusement.

But that is besides the point now. That was long ago. But the other evening my tongue was giving me trouble – the doctor told me we have thousands of receptors on our tongues, and sometimes it drives me nuts how uncomfortable I feel because I am intense aware of these receptors. And this especially happens when I am having logic with my head and writing it down to you. So, as my tongue was a problem the other night again, I went to Rebbe Nachman of Breslov’s Anatomy of the Soul and looked up what the rebbe has to say about the tongue. And what shall I find, that the Rebbe talks of a Holy Tongue where it is mentioned that if the Rebbe is speaking of the Holy Tongue, he refers to the use of speech for holy purposes. This is just linking the tongue with words/speech. This part about the tongue and what goes with it is a part of when the Mashiach come and the Rebbe claim that when the Mashiach come, this will be “When speech is purified, and will become the speech of faith. So it seems even the Rebbe is setting an indication that when the Messiah come, this word thing will be addressed. So, who knows, maybe the Messiah will come and give us clarity on all these words and word related confusement and which is causing so much trouble because of that confusement. (And the part about the Holy Tongue and the Mashiach is on page 275 – 278.

1. 275 gives a 2 and a 7 + 5 = 12 or 212
2. 278 gives a 2 + 7 = 9 + 8 = 17.

And the last paragraph on page 278 states:
“Currently, man’s speech is imperfect. When all mankind turns to God, then speech will be perfected, as in (Zephaniah 3:9) ‘Then I will convert all the nations to a clear tongue, that they may all call out to God to serve Him of one accord’(Likutery Moharan I, 66:3).”
And this is on the page that adds up to 17 – where 17 is linked to the Hebrew name of God that means: “I will be revealed at ever greater levels”.

I was at university always very intrigued by Nietzche’s little story about the madman that ran out on the plain one night with a lantern and was shouting: God is dead, we killed God. And then also NP van Wyk Louw who have an SA on how we build walls around truths with our words and interpretations of words. Like in, how do you get to the original, the first and most clear of the concept that was underlying the words it was build with – followed by interpretations of those words…

I wonder, as these are all just words again…

LOVE
Renee
11/01/2006 12:48 and 4 + 8 = 12 which gives 12:12.

11/01/2006 16:16

Dear Lore

This is the second letter of Lore74.

But I just want to share something with you. Some very coincidental thing that happened this afternoon. If you look at the first letter of Lore74 you will see there is reference after the 5th paragraph of a (1) and (2) and I repeat them word and number for word and number now:

1. 275 gives a 2 and a 7 + 5 = 12 or 212
2. 278 gives a 2 + 7 = 9 + 8 = 17.

But now, this afternoon I was phoning from the yellow pages to see if I can get people who would be interested to join in Business Club. And

1. on page 212 I found an add of a company with a panther as logo and I phoned
2. at time 15:17

And it turned out that the owner of the company is Lorraine. Then I could not speak to her on the number I had phoned the first time when I found that Lorraine is the owner, and the second call I made was at 15:18 which gives 15 as 1 + 8 = 9 and 15 + 9 = 15. And do you remember how you asked me if 1 + 5 does not equal 6 and I said no, it is the combination of two air numbers, namely 1 and 5. But can you see how the (1) and (2) parts of the first letter links with this strange happening this afternoon?

It is also interesting that the logo of the company is a panther – seeing I had the dream of those two panthers and wrote to you about it and quoted what the symbolism of panthers are.

What do you make of this?

LOVE
Renee
11/01/2006 16:29 and 2 + 9 = 11 and this end minutes is exactly the day of which each letter starts with, the first and the second, namely 11.

Ns. Hidden behind safety bars at the back of the page where Lorraine’s company is advertised, is the eyes and nose of the face of a lion.